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What value does Haas bring to F1?
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With all the anti-Andretti sentiment amongst the team principles, they need to ask themselves if Haas brings any value to F1. It's a team with a pretty much absentee owner who gives them minimal funds to run the team. Andretti has money lined up, has backing from GM, and actually wants to be successful in F1. Whereas Guenther aside, I don't feel Gene Haas cares one way of the other.
Edit: My point being, someone gave Gene Haas an opportunity--and I hear this argument being used against Michael Andretti--what value does Andretti Motorsports bring?
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The future of HAAS
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With the news of Andretti (possibly) Joining F1 for 2025, what does the future bring for HAAS? They’ve been disappointing for years now, and it just seems like they’re going nowhere. They’ve been completely reliant on Ferrari, and now they’re only plus being an “American” team is gone to Andretti. What does the future hold for them? What will they do with their drivers? Hulkenberg is performing as good as ever, but Magnussens time seems limited getting handily beat by Nico. Personally, I think KMAG is gone in 2025, and will be replaced by Zhou, who is a safe pair of hands.Steiner already said they will never hire rookies again, which I think is a mistake because it will stifle their performance because they will be limited to older, experienced drivers who are willing to drive for them, which is probably a somewhat limited list. What are your thoughts? Cheers!
Note: Do any of you think haas can ever reclaim their former glory? (2018) Podium by 2026?
Top Comment: I mean, has the market for selling a team ever been higher?
Is Haas over-performing, was Gunther the problem all along, and what does it mean for an 11th team?
Main Post: Is Haas over-performing, was Gunther the problem all along, and what does it mean for an 11th team?
Top Comment: Anytime Ferrari has a decent car, Haas is decent. Think 2018 and 2022. When Ferrari is bad, Haas is bad. Think 2020 and 2023(they did not have the resources to bring the car out of the hole like Ferrari did mid-season). They are executing and driving well though, which helps tremendously.
Does Haas have a plan?
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I'm beating a dead horse here, but as they currently stand, we're looking a team that punted 2022 to invest in 2023 only to finish last on WCC. They have two veteran drivers under contract that were not pulled from the grid, but both of whom were not driving in F1. There have been no rumors of major shakeup in management or operations, and they look to just continue on the same path as 2023.
They're the least exciting team on the grid, I don't think there's any disagreement there. So, I'm scratching my head trying to think what their plan is, because business as usual has yielded zero progress.
Are Gene Haas and team actually taking in profit with this perennial backmarker? How are they still on the grid in this form? I expect some personnel change, at least.
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[Haas F1 Team] LET'S GO NICO!! Our Qualifying King does it again
Main Post: [Haas F1 Team] LET'S GO NICO!! Our Qualifying King does it again
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Haas ahead of Ferraris hahaha wtf
Ferrari doing Ferrari things
Haas problem is so severe it thought car was broken
Main Post: Haas problem is so severe it thought car was broken
Top Comment: Ocon: At least I’m not going to have the worst car on the grid when I move to Haas. Had enough of that with the early 2024 Alpine. Ocon: Damn this Haas has hands
Toyota's F1 return with Haas explained
Main Post: Toyota's F1 return with Haas explained
Top Comment: Toyota walked into the grid, picked the team that matched their colour scheme the best and called it a day. That is the reality I choose to go forward with.
Haas Fans ? Tell us Why
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I am myself a Haas fan after DTS. Love underdogs and huge Magnussen fan because of his debut in Australia, I don't know much about between 2014-2016 but you have to be talented driver for that result. I started watching F1 full time from 2022 he was impressive at beginning of the year Bahrain, Jeddah, Imola after being out and then Austria Sprint weekend, France Start, Brazil, Austin, some DNFs throughout the season and incidents costing points. This year is particularly hasn't been great so far, he said car is against his driving style I don't know how much of it is true or can be. Supporting Haas has been great and Steiner is great character. Recently listened to his audiobook Surviving to Drive. Supporting the underdog has a lot of mix of emotions there are some highs and the lowest of lows
Tell us your story of being a Haas fan, how it started, how it's been over the years, what's kept you attached, and how has it been lately
Top Comment: I like underdogs. I like supporting teams that any little good news is like a victory. I am American as well so that helps but it's not just because of the American angle. I think that despite the criticism they get from a lot of fans, what Haas has been able to do, surviving as a new entrant and becoming a lower-midfield contender, is pretty remarkable.
Is Haas Really That Bad?
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I've never worked on a Haas machine before, Okuma, Nakamura, Matsuura, etc are what I've had experience with. I see fairly often people making poor comments about Haas whether it be the machines or service related issues.
Out of curiosity I wanted to ask for anecdotes to see what the real consensus was on the brand. I'd hope to start a shop some day and I only know what I've been fortunate enough to work with.
Top Comment: Haas is NOT a top of the line brand, but rather one of the best 'value for money' brands that's out there. The Haas VF-2 is the single most common CNC machine in the US. It's the F150 of the machine tool world. People constantly shit on Fords, but that doesn't stop them from buying one and using it for years and years. It's a solid product that gets the job done.